Dialogue with Robert Bauval


Dialogue with Robert Bauval


Robert Bauval recently described himself as belonging to a "gang of
troublemakers" that arrived on the scene in Egypt in the 90's. The
"scene" in Egypt refers to the landscape of social discourse about the
obvious mysteries presented by Ancient Egypt. The epithet "gang" is an
evocative one, because it comes loaded with all the attendant
associations - turf disputes, rival gangs attempting to thwart their
ingress, pointed conflict between the entrenched locals and the new

At this time, the conversation about ancient Egypt was really more of a
pronouncement. It was more or less dictated and handed down from the
unquestioned spires of academic Egyptology, where it was presented by
the mass media in a model that most people accepted as fact.

Most people, but not all. There has always been a statistically small
number of people who have come to the conclusion for a variety of
reasons that the Egypt that we see demonstrated and living, albeit in a
greatly ruined form, demonstrates an almost unfathomably more developed
civilization and level of technology than is credited to it. This is
precisely the nature of the mystery, because the orthodox picture of our
history in no way allows for what is demonstrated here.

Ultimately, the gang of trouble makers were able to make an end run
around the historical "gatekeepers" and present their findings directly
to a public that was all too eager for an explanation of these ancient
mysteries that didnt echo the "nothing to see here folks..." attitude
projected by orthodox Egyptology. One that addressed the mysterious
advancement, and that looked beyond that to ask questions about the
focus of such an advanced culture. John Anthony West, Graham Hancock,
Robert Schoch, each in their own way, according to their specialities,
demonstrated with rigorous arguments that the "old school"
interpretation of ancient Egypt, and in fact the whole of human past,
was hopelessly flawed and was in fact obscuring a much more interesting,
much more relevant truth. One with implications that were so big as to
be hard to process at first blush.

The wide gulf between the ancient Egypt we can observe, and the ancient
Egypt as it is described and explained by the voice of traditional
academia and mass media can be seen in every aspect of the ancient
culture. In particular in the areas that Egypt itself declared to be of
greatest importance. The subject upon which it demonstrated its
greatest focus was the strange interrelationship between consciousness
and the stars.

And not just in life. Descriptions abound of accounts of the
consciousness of the pharoah or adept who successfully traverses the
perilous gates and hallways and personages that govern the transition
from one state of incarnation to the next - ultimately to dwell in the
stars, among the other gods.

We begin with one of the central questions of the new M.E. series: Given
the unexplainable, but very appreciable level of sophistication and high
development of the rest of the culture, is there any reason to believe
the same mastery cannot be looked for in their almost schematic charting
of the death and afterlife transitional experience?

Bauval's first book, "The Orion Mystery" announced an explosive
discovery, who's implications are still not fully clear. Most are
familiar with the basic idea of the book, that the three pyramids of
Giza correspond to the belt stars of Orion. It was the groundwork for a
radical new line of inquiry, demonstrating that the ancient world had
more than an interest, but some deeper, perhaps operational relationship
with the stars, and the cycles of time that were appreciable through them.

Our first topic of conversation will be exploring the question, in light
of the recent and highly controversial work by Rupert Sheldrake and
others that describes consciousness as a field, and in fact
consciousness as the basic stuff of the universe, is there any sense in
which the Egyptians could have been leaving a manual that explains and
even schematizes an entirely unsuspected aspect of our existence. One
that shifts our understanding of life being restricted to physical
incarnation in these biological bodies, to a different way of looking at
ourselves - as entities of consciousness that progress through various
states of existence, the way a fetus moves through several separate
recognizable phases of morphology before birth. Or indeed, just as our
life in the womb is one phase of existence, with a very dramatic
threshold of transition to another "plane of existence", is there more
and more that lay beyond this? And what does it have to do with the stars?

Our second topic of conversation will be another recurring theme in the
new M.E. series. Intellectual Aparthied. The deliberate witholding of
information to maintain a strategic edge, or an intellectual advantage
over another party - the ruled, or the outsider. Why was the symbolism
and religion seemingly stratified to a place where the public was
presented a simplified or empty version of the religion, while the more
operational, actionable, arts were restricted to a special-access
group? What would a civilization look like that operated according to
the ancient cosmology and basic operating assumptions. We will be
asking RB's take on whether he sees an intellectual aparthied, or any
kind of an intentional misrepresenting of our history, our present and
our future.

Our third topic of conversation is a continuation of the discussion of
intellectual aparthied, or the incentive to present a false picture of
history for reasons of financial, ideological, political or spiritual
control, or other forms of subjugation. It involves a controversial
topic of discussion that is very much alive and of great importance to a
massive percentage of the population, but one which receives almost no
attention or credibility in the mainstream media. The question of
blacks in Ancient Egypt. RB's recent book and documentary "Black
Genesis" is a landmark work in drawing attention to the seeming
reluctance of some Egyptological authorities to acknowledge the presence
and influence of black Africans in ancient Egypt. This topic is one of
the most prominent and inflammatory subjects that continues to arise in
the public commentary windows wherever Magical Egypt has appeared. The
intensity of the debate has prompted us to cover this important and
controversial story in the way that only we can - outside of the
influences of corporate sponsorship and political correctness, depending
on the basic premise of science - the free exchange of ideas for the
perfection of our understanding of our history and ourselves.

Our final topic is one of the central topics of inquiry in M.E.2 - the
door in your head: Were the heiroglyphs, temple architecture, reliefs,
statuary, iconograpy, etc, more than just devotional fetish items? Were
they instructions coded in symbolism, like an operation manual,
iconographically relating a schematic of our psyche, and then going
further to demonstrate various exotic configurations that allowed a
higher states of functioning - perhaps even an advanced operational
mode, with significant and extraordinary benefits for its achievement.
A sort of self-initiated upgrade that was made possible by activating
and developing certain areas of the brain that lie dormant in most of us.

There is a persistent mythos kept alive in spiritual artistic tradition,
that asserts that the halo surrounding the head of christ and other
saints is related to this amplified field generated by the third eye of
the advanced spiritual adept. It is held in some circles that the halo
of dark ages and rennaisance art is symbolically the same as the risen
cobra protruding from the forhead of the pharoahs or noteable dignitary
in statuary and reliefs. Each represents its own cultures understanding
and depiction of the mysterious process that occurs through following
the ancient art of alchemical transmutation. The discovery, development
and right use of "the hidden door" in each of our heads.

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